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From: Justin on 27 May 2010 14:10 nospam wrote on [Thu, 27 May 2010 10:47:30 -0700]: > In article <htm9bf$33b$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>, Justin > <nospam(a)insightbb.com> wrote: > >> > but it's perfectly ok for google to orphan the t-mobile g1, a phone >> > that's just 18 months old and *still being sold* today, or for htc to >> > orphan anything sold prior to 2010, less than six months ago. >> >> They are not mutually exclusive items. They are both wrong. > > neither is wrong. Perhaps your reading comprehension is faulty.
From: Thomas T. Veldhouse on 27 May 2010 14:11 In alt.cellular.verizon nospam <nospam(a)nospam.invalid> wrote: > In article <htm1dg$i1d$4(a)news.eternal-september.org>, Justin > <nospam(a)insightbb.com> wrote: > >> > 30-40% is not what i'd call 'ubiquitous'. >> >> Is that weighted by popularity if the sites? There are millions of small >> flat sites out there that are blogs etc. that skew those numbers. > > it doesn't skew the numbers. if there are millions of small sites > without flash, they count too. what makes you think an iphone user > won't visit any of them? What matters is what percentage of hits are hits to pages that contain Flash. I think that was the point. -- Thomas T. Veldhouse Religion is a crutch, but that's okay... humanity is a cripple.
From: John Navas on 27 May 2010 14:17 On 27 May 2010 15:44:08 GMT, "Thomas T. Veldhouse" <veldy71(a)gmail.com> wrote in <867ia8F119U2(a)mid.individual.net>: >In alt.cellular.attws nospam <nospam(a)nospam.invalid> wrote: >> >> speaking of which, there's no flash on windows phone 7 either. >> microsoft has their own clone called silverlight, even more proprietary >> than what adobe is doing. where's the bitching about that? > >FYI ... Silverlight is DEFINITELY NO CLONE of Flash in either function or >implementation. Indeed, quite impressive technology. -- Best regards, John If the iPhone is really so impressive, why do iFans keep making excuses for it?
From: Justin on 27 May 2010 14:18 nospam wrote on [Thu, 27 May 2010 10:47:37 -0700]: > In article <htm9p0$33b$3(a)news.eternal-september.org>, Justin > <nospam(a)insightbb.com> wrote: > >> > the simple concept, is that so far, it's only available for the nexus >> > one, a phone that sold in very small numbers, and that's via manual >> > update. it's not available yet for the motorola droid, htc evo (the >> >> Yet, it's available. What a hard concept to understand > > to nexus one owners. See, it's released and therefore not vapour. >> > As I said at the beginning, Android 2.2 will be here soon, and some >> > devices will get the update in the coming weeks. >> >> And some have it, so IT IS RELEASED TO CONSUMERS >> I know, it's hard to wrap your mind around this FACT. > > it has not been released to consumers who bought phones *other* than > the nexus one and it may never be, depending on the phone and the And that doesn't matter, catch up already >> > developer sdk (sounds familiar), 'soon' and 'coming weeks' = not >> > released yet. >> >> Huh, I have the developer SDK already, so soon is long past > > soon is for the end user release. do keep up. Not the way you phrased it.
From: nospam on 27 May 2010 14:35
In article <htmcuq$sgc$2(a)news.eternal-september.org>, Justin <nospam(a)insightbb.com> wrote: > >> Who cares if an iDevice user that can't run flash wants to visit them. > > > > web site owners will want their site to be usable by 100 million users > > who represent over 2/3rds of mobile web traffic. in other words, the > > majority of mobile users *don't* have flash. > > The majority of users aren't using mobile browsers, either they are on mobile devices, which is where the flash issue exists. > >> That doesn't matter. What matters are all the sites that they can't > >> use properly due to no Flash support. The number of sites that run Flash > >> is irrelevant, it's the number of popular sites that matters. > > > > again, it's not that many sites and a lot work without needing flash, > > including youtube. > > Flash is more than just video. i never said otherwise. do keep up. > > more and more web sites announce html5 support. that means they'll work > > on the iphone, no flash needed. > > Just because something supports html5 it doesn't mean it doesn't have Flash > components. The two are not mutually exclusive. all that matters is that it works on an iphone. both can coexist. |