Does God need to prove He exists?
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From: raven1 on 29 Jun 2008 19:16 On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 15:29:33 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwinn3(a)juno.com> wrote: >On Jun 29, 8:44?am, Free Lunch <lu...(a)nofreelunch.us> wrote: >> On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 07:26:23 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> >> wrote in alt.atheism: >> >> >> >> >> >> >On Jun 29, 12:13?am, BuddyThunder <nos...(a)paradise.net.nz> wrote: >> >> rbwinn wrote: >> >> > On Jun 28, 2:15 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...(a)paradise.net.nz> wrote: >> >> >> rbwinn wrote: >> >> >>> On Jun 28, 7:04?am, Free Lunch <lu...(a)nofreelunch.us> wrote: >> >> >>>> On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 07:01:05 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> >> >> >>>> wrote in alt.atheism: >> >> >>>>> On Jun 28, 12:21?am, BuddyThunder <nos...(a)paradise.net.nz> wrote: >> >> >>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >> >> >>>> ... >> >> >>>>>>> No, you were trying to hedge your bets. ?You do not believe in faith, >> >> >>>>>>> but you are "on the edge of faith", so that counts in case you need to >> >> >>>>>>> have faith. ?I know how atheists think. >> >> >>>>>> Why would I need to hedge my bets? I believe in faith, I just don't >> >> >>>>>> think it's rational. And believe me, you really *don't* know how >> >> >>>>>> atheists think.- Hide quoted text - >> >> >>>>>> - Show quoted text - >> >> >>>>> I know far better than atheists how they think. ?They have made a >> >> >>>>> wrong choice, so their options are limited. >> >> >>>> Your lies are indefensible. You celebrate the evil that you have fallen >> >> >>>> into. >> >> >>> I thought you atheists did not believe evil exists. ?If there is no >> >> >>> devil, everything is good, isn't it? >> >> >> Evil sounds like a religious concept to me, but why would you think that >> >> >> we can't differentiate right from wrong. Another strawman? >> >> >> >> We seem to be able to discuss without lying, can you?- Hide quoted text - >> >> >> >> - Show quoted text - >> >> >> > Sure. ?A while back you were saying that there was nothing wrong with >> >> > killing children before they are born. ?So are you saying that killing >> >> > children before they are born is a good thing? >> >> >> Where did I say that? Can you show me, or is that another lie? Abortion >> >> is deeply unpleasant, however I don't think it should be banned. They're >> >> not children yet, by the way.- Hide quoted text - >> >> >> - Show quoted text - >> >> >Not children yet? ?What do you think they are? >> >> Embryos and fetuses.- Hide quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text - > >So you are saying that people who call them unborn children are lying? No, they're playing semantic games. Children, by definition, have been born. I suppose one *could* refer to a fetus as an "unborn child", in the same way that one could refer to an egg as an "unmade omelet", but it would be a silly thing to do.
From: raven1 on 29 Jun 2008 19:25 On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 15:49:51 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwinn3(a)juno.com> wrote: >> Technically speaking, they are parasites living off a grown female.- Hide quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text - > >Well, thank you for your answer, Alex. So human beings Nice try. Human beings, by definition, have been born. A fetus is not yet a person, albeit it has the potential to be one. Further, even if one was to grant that a fetus was a human being, it is not clear to me why its need to be carried for nine months would somehow trump an adult woman's right to control her own body, especially if the pregnancy was unwanted, unplanned, or occurred by force. >are nothing >except parasites in atheist theology. There is no such thing as "atheist theology". Atheism is the absence of belief in deities, and implies no other political, moral, or philosophical position. Atheists fall along the entire political spectrum, including those who oppose abortion.
From: Alex W. on 29 Jun 2008 19:27 "BuddyThunder" <nospam(a)paradise.net.nz> wrote in message news:4867eccb$1(a)clear.net.nz... > Alex W. wrote: >> "BuddyThunder" <nospam(a)paradise.net.nz> wrote in message >> news:486737ee$1(a)clear.net.nz... >>> rbwinn wrote: >> >> >>>> I know. Abortion was imported here from Europe. >>> I'm not European either. <shrug> >> >> Pakeha? > > Bingo! :-) That's not a Maori word. Is it?
From: Steve O on 29 Jun 2008 19:45 "rbwinn" <rbwinn3(a)juno.com> wrote in message news:68d35cf9-1115-4814-9643-e424c848ef6c(a)w8g2000prd.googlegroups.com... >> > Well, in my opinion we will never go any further than the scripture in > Isaiah that says a conduit for water was dug between Gihon spring and > the Pool of Siloam. But notice one thing. We have already probably > set the record for the length of a conversation between atheists and a > Christian. This wasn't a conversation. It was a tedious exercise in attempting to demonstrate logic and reason to someone who is clearly incapable of understanding either concept. > Now atheists will no doubt say that the conversation was > not inspiring for them. But at this point the goal is to establish > that a conversation of more than a few words can take place between an > atheist and a normal person. > Robert B. Winn I would hardly class you as a normal person. -- Steve O a.a. #2240 (Apatheist Chapter) B.A.A.W.A. Convicted by Earthquack, Exempt from purgatory by papal indulgence "I have a miraculous picture of Jesus - if you look really closely at the face, you can see a burnt tortilla"
From: DuhIdiot on 29 Jun 2008 20:26
The Natural Philosopher <a(a)b.c> wrote in news:1214775234.22800.0(a)proxy01.news.clara.net: <snip> > It is the greatest mistake of the half > educated to extrapolate concepts beyond the limits of applicability. <snip> Nice line. Is that a quote? -- No SPAM in my email. |