Does God need to prove He exists?
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From: BuddyThunder on 1 Jul 2008 04:04 rbwinn wrote: > On Jun 30, 12:55 am, BuddyThunder <nos...(a)paradise.net.nz> wrote: >> rbwinn wrote: >>> On Jun 29, 1:56�pm, The Natural Philosopher <a...(a)b.c> wrote: >>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>> Well, they do now that I have brought up the subject of Hezekiah's >>>>> tunnel and the earthen ramp, which can both be seen today. �Before >>>>> that, they were saying there was nothing in the Bible that was not >>>>> mythology and nothing in the Bible that could be proven. �Atheists say >>>>> whatever they think will fly. �It just so happened that I knew about >>>>> Hezekiah's tunnel, so what they usually say was not sufficient for >>>>> this conversation. �So now they are saying that the Bible has some >>>>> history in it, but they are not happy about having to say that. �They >>>>> would rather be saying what they said when this conversation started, >>>>> that the Bible is nothing but mythology. >>>>> Robert B. Winn >>>> If you are as wrong about what is in the bible as you are about what >>>> people you have never apparently et think about it..God help you. ;-) >>> I have read the Bible a couple of times. What other people think >>> about it is up to them. Where they make their mistake is when they >>> think they are going to tell me what I think about it. >> Another baseless accusation. You're the one with the strawman opinion of >> atheists. You're totally free to believe whatever magical nonsense you >> want, just don't expect anyone to accept it without rational basis. Your >> thoughts, such as they are, are totally your own. >> >> See how nice and tollerant us atheists are? :-)- Hide quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text - > > No. All you are doing is mimicking me. If I had not said you were > free to believe what you want, you never would have said it. Utter nonsense. Don't presume to tell me what I think, it's very rude. I believe very strongly in freedom of religion, including (as it must) freedom FROM religion. Your lies about me won't change that.
From: Alex W. on 1 Jul 2008 05:14 "rbwinn" <rbwinn3(a)juno.com> wrote in message news:6b4ffde3-6dd2-42e1-ae8b-31dca39a4aee(a)f24g2000prh.googlegroups.com... I believe that if something is a parasite when it is in its mother's womb, then it is a parasite after it leaves its mother's womb. A parasite is never anything except a parasite. ======= Actually, that sentiment is not entirely unknown to parents of teenagers and students ....
From: The Natural Philosopher on 1 Jul 2008 06:23 rbwinn wrote: > On Jun 29, 10:29 pm, TT <t...(a)niburn.net> wrote: >> rbwinn wrote: >>> On Jun 29, 1:56�pm, The Natural Philosopher <a...(a)b.c> wrote: >>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>> Well, they do now that I have brought up the subject of Hezekiah's >>>>> tunnel and the earthen ramp, which can both be seen today. �Before >>>>> that, they were saying there was nothing in the Bible that was not >>>>> mythology and nothing in the Bible that could be proven. �Atheists say >>>>> whatever they think will fly. �It just so happened that I knew about >>>>> Hezekiah's tunnel, so what they usually say was not sufficient for >>>>> this conversation. �So now they are saying that the Bible has some >>>>> history in it, but they are not happy about having to say that. �They >>>>> would rather be saying what they said when this conversation started, >>>>> that the Bible is nothing but mythology. >>>>> Robert B. Winn >>>> If you are as wrong about what is in the bible as you are about what >>>> people you have never apparently et think about it..God help you. ;-) >>> I have read the Bible a couple of times. What other people think >>> about it is up to them. Where they make their mistake is when they >>> think they are going to tell me what I think about it. >>> Robert B. Winn >> The bigger mistake is listening to you in the first place. after a >> bit of your thoughts...nobody cares...- Hide quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text - > > Right. So that is why atheists are over here in sci.physics trying to > convince me to become an atheist. Because you are posting to alt.atheism trying to convince them to become a Christian? > Robert B. Winn
From: Steve O on 1 Jul 2008 06:45 "BuddyThunder" <nospam(a)paradise.net.nz> wrote in message news:4869da39$1(a)clear.net.nz... > Steve O wrote: >> >> >> "rbwinn" <rbwinn3(a)juno.com> wrote in message >> news:c4e4d588-3124-45b3-a064-d5a153da4758(a)z32g2000prh.googlegroups.com... >>> On Jun 30, 2:59�pm, "Steve O" <nospamh...(a)thanks.com> wrote: >>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote in message >>>> >>>> news:1ce59514-cea6-4e3f-b227-f2e92dd39117(a)l28g2000prd.googlegroups.com... >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> > Why would I invent a religion? >>>> > Robert b. Winn >>>> >>>> Your prophet, Joe Smith managed to do that and did quite well out of >>>> it. >>>> (at least until the mob caught up with him, that is) >>>> So why shouldn't you? >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Steve O >>> >>> Joseph Smith had a very difficult life. Then he was shot by a mob. >>> If he did quite well out of it, then it was in the hereafter. So are >>> you saying that you believe Joseph Smith obtained some kind of reward >>> after his death? >>> Robert B. Winn >> >> Of course I'm not, and I have absolutely no idea why you would suggest >> that I am saying anything like that. >> How is it even remotely possible for some one to receive a reward AFTER >> death? > > Winn has run out of truthful options for argument, it would seem. So any > strawman of atheism will do! I've never seen anyone use so many strawman arguments, which seems to indicate that he is either intensely stupid, or a deliberate liar. I haven't decided which one just yet. Maybe he's both. -- Steve O a.a. #2240 (Apatheist Chapter) B.A.A.W.A. Convicted by Earthquack, Exempt from purgatory by papal indulgence "I have a miraculous picture of Jesus - if you look really closely at the face, you can see a burnt tortilla"
From: Steve O on 1 Jul 2008 06:50
"rbwinn" <rbwinn3(a)juno.com> wrote in message news:42c897ff-cf01-4b56-b197-2b04d58f321e(a)34g2000hsh.googlegroups.com... > On Jun 30, 6:28 pm, "Steve O" <nospamh...(a)thanks.com> wrote: >> "rbwinn" <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote in message >> >> news:c4e4d588-3124-45b3-a064-d5a153da4758(a)z32g2000prh.googlegroups.com... >> >> >> >> >> >> > On Jun 30, 2:59�pm, "Steve O" <nospamh...(a)thanks.com> wrote: >> >> "rbwinn" <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote in message >> >> >>news:1ce59514-cea6-4e3f-b227-f2e92dd39117(a)l28g2000prd.googlegroups.com... >> >> >> > Why would I invent a religion? >> >> > Robert b. Winn >> >> >> Your prophet, Joe Smith managed to do that and did quite well out of >> >> it. >> >> (at least until the mob caught up with him, that is) >> >> So why shouldn't you? >> >> >> > Joseph Smith had a very difficult life. Then he was shot by a mob. >> > If he did quite well out of it, then it was in the hereafter. So are >> > you saying that you believe Joseph Smith obtained some kind of reward >> > after his death? >> > Robert B. Winn >> >> Of course I'm not, and I have absolutely no idea why you would suggest >> that >> I am saying anything like that. >> How is it even remotely possible for some one to receive a reward AFTER >> death? >> > > So you atheists are going to take what you can get before you die, > right? > Robert B. Winn If by that you mean, "Enjoy life to it's fullest" then yes, that's right. We certainly wouldn't be expected to throw our one and only chance of enjoying life away living in fear of someone else's imaginary God and what he might do to us after we die. -- Steve O a.a. #2240 (Apatheist Chapter) B.A.A.W.A. Convicted by Earthquack, Exempt from purgatory by papal indulgence "I have a miraculous picture of Jesus - if you look really closely at the face, you can see a burnt tortilla" |