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From: nospam on 11 Jun 2010 03:05 In article <husm99$ijm$1(a)lust.ihug.co.nz>, Your Name <your.name(a)isp.com> wrote: > Yep. I've still got Think Pascal (the last version of Lightspeed Pascal > which Symantec renamed and then killed off) installed on my PowerMac. > Symantec used to have it on their website as a free download - it's no > longer there, but you can get it elsewhere. I wish they'd make a Mac OS X > version. :-( i seem to recall think pascal (and think c if i'm not mistaken) as not working all that well on powerpc, especially with fat binaries. codewarrior was *so* much better than think c/pascal. xcode is awful in comparison, and about to get worse.
From: Your Name on 11 Jun 2010 05:18 "nospam" <nospam(a)nospam.invalid> wrote in message news:110620100305067599%nospam(a)nospam.invalid... > In article <husm99$ijm$1(a)lust.ihug.co.nz>, Your Name > <your.name(a)isp.com> wrote: > > > > Yep. I've still got Think Pascal (the last version of Lightspeed Pascal > > which Symantec renamed and then killed off) installed on my PowerMac. > > Symantec used to have it on their website as a free download - it's no > > longer there, but you can get it elsewhere. I wish they'd make a Mac OS X > > version. :-( > > i seem to recall think pascal (and think c if i'm not mistaken) as not > working all that well on powerpc, especially with fat binaries. > > codewarrior was *so* much better than think c/pascal. xcode is awful in > comparison, and about to get worse. Lightspeed / Think Pascal is probably THE best programming environment I've used (and there's been of lots of them). I briefly tried CodeWarrior, but it was too messy / awkward, so I went back to Think Pascal. FileMaker Pro has a nice programming environment, but the point 'n' click gets tidious on long coding tasks. The updated Think Pascal works OK on my beige G3, although it probably doesn't have all the libraries to access new features of OS 8 and OS 9 nor make FAT Binaries. My original install was one that had the "System 7" logo on the box, but it's had a couple of updaters since then which may have fixed problems with later machines / OSes. The website to download the Think Pascal files is http://www.lysator.liu.se/~ingemar/tp45d4/think.html
From: Jeff Liebermann on 11 Jun 2010 11:13 On Thu, 10 Jun 2010 18:47:41 -0700, John Navas <jncl1(a)navasgroup.com> wrote: >On Mon, 31 May 2010 10:24:06 -0700, in ><2iq706dj0eehaq7d3jaq9o5le5us6almrd(a)4ax.com>, Jeff Liebermann ><jeffl(a)cruzio.com> wrote: > >>Speaking of conservative, I still use vi to edit my code. > >No offense, but YUCK! Try VEDIT. I should have said that I use a vi mutation. I use VIM, Unix vedit, MKS Toolbox vi, and some standalone clones that I found/stole from somewhere. Fortunately, I'm not much of a programmist, so there's no need for efficiency. I don't have a vi clone for my iPod Touch mostly because I haven't found a need for one. <http://texteditors.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ViFamily> >>I still >>can't debug well on the screen. ... > >I couldn't work effectively without a visual debugger. That's the difference between us. I don't program much, so I don't need an efficient work environment. Something familiar, like vi, is sufficient for me. >>Old habits die hard. > >For some. Not for all. ;) Really? In the next decade or so, we're probably going to drift into all manner of user interface changes. There will be 3D displays, facial recognition, avatars, interactive speech, virtual reality, immersive environments, implants, wearable computers, and possibly direct brain stimulation. Instead of sitting in front of the computah with a keyboard mouse and monitor, or carrying a toy computer, you'll become part of the machinery. Much of the technology exists today, but we'll have to wait for the current generation of dinosaurs to die off before any of it will be generally accepted. I'll probably live long enough to have problems with the transition. No doubt, the younger users will not have any difficulties adapting. Worse, the rate of change will accelerate. The high fashion computer interface will probably change every few years as it currently does with cell phones. With an average lifetime of about 18 months for a typical cell phone, Joe Sixpack has to learn a new set of features every few years. He has adapted quite nicely by simply ignoring all the fancy features and functions, and just learning the minimal basics. It would be amusing (to me) to watch him try to operate a phone without a keypad. The technology is ready, but is the user ready? Flame Bait: Usability expert faults iPad user interface, calls it "whacky" <http://www.betanews.com/joewilcox/article/Usability-expert-faults-iPad-user-interface-calls-it-whacky/1273592091> <http://www.nngroup.com/reports/mobile/ipad/> Topic Drift: Mobile LCD and OLED Display Shoot-Out <http://www.displaymate.com/mobile.html> -- Jeff Liebermann jeffl(a)cruzio.com 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558
From: Jeff Liebermann on 11 Jun 2010 11:28 On Fri, 11 Jun 2010 00:18:03 -0400, nospam <nospam(a)nospam.invalid> wrote: >In article <tf53161p455ohvjues5ni4vl07h11pn2ej(a)4ax.com>, John Navas ><jncl1(a)navasgroup.com> wrote: > >> The Mac was just a cheap copy of the Lisa, >> which was just a cheap copy of the Xerox Alto. > >nonsense. mac os was very different than lisa os and lisa os was very >different than the xerox alto and star. apple made dramatic >improvements to what xerox had (and i used to use a xerox star too). <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Lisa> The Lisa wasn't really useful until it was able to run MacOS software using the MacWorks emulator: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MacWorks_XL> I don't recall doing anything useful with the Lisa Office System. I've owned and worked on several Lisa computers, including two that ran SCO Lisa Xenix 3.0. Those ran an NC/CAD system at a machine shop well into the 1990's when I couldn't find any more ancient 10 MByte ST-506 HDA cans that worked. (Yes, that's a 10 Megabyte hard disk drive). -- Jeff Liebermann jeffl(a)cruzio.com 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558
From: John Navas on 11 Jun 2010 11:55
On Fri, 11 Jun 2010 00:13:52 -0400, in <110620100013521171%nospam(a)nospam.invalid>, nospam <nospam(a)nospam.invalid> wrote: >In article <c25316h2hki2vsshehhilb8do6qrfg15p1(a)4ax.com>, John Navas ><jncl1(a)navasgroup.com> wrote: > >> >> I have Windows machines connected to the Internet and to other data >> >> sources, and I'm totally free of malware, so what you write simply >> >> cannot be true. >> > >> >that's because you run anti-virus software, and have told others how >> >foolish it is not to do so. >> >> It's mostly because I practice "safe computing". > >most people don't. they'll happily click on links or run attachments. A problem on *any* platform able to install executable code. -- Best regards, John If the iPhone and iPad are really so impressive, then why do iFans keep making excuses for them? |