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From: John Navas on 10 Jun 2010 21:44 On Sun, 30 May 2010 23:48:46 -0700, in <300520102348468822%nospam(a)nospam.invalid>, nospam <nospam(a)nospam.invalid> wrote: >In article <michelle-1D7EDD.19233930052010(a)news.eternal-september.org>, >Michelle Steiner <michelle(a)michelle.org> wrote: > >> > it reminds me of when windows first came out and dos users said a gui >> > was silly, it's a toy, you can't do real work in a gui, real computer >> > users need a command line, i can write a super cool batch file to do >> > what takes you hours of mousing and clicking, blah blah blah. now those >> > same people use mac and windows and would never touch dos. >> >> I had an instructor in 1988 who was dissing the Mac's trashcan as being >> stupid because people should know how to spell "delete". > >i remember people asking me how many columns the original mac screen >had. i said there were no columns, the number of characters per line >varied because almost all fonts were proportional. it all depends what >letters and fonts were used, and what sizes. > >quite a few people (mainly geeks) did not understand why that was a >huge step forward or what it meant for users. i even had to explain >what fonts were to a few people. > >if it wasn't 80x24 or 132x24 of a fixed size amber or green letters, it >was a toy and they weren't interested. > >some people just don't get it. Or where it came from: Xerox Alto. ;) -- Best regards, FAQ for Wireless Internet: <http://wireless.navas.us> John FAQ for Wi-Fi: <http://wireless.navas.us/wiki/Wi-Fi> Wi-Fi How To: <http://wireless.navas.us/wiki/Wi-Fi_HowTo> Fixes to Wi-Fi Problems: <http://wireless.navas.us/wiki/Wi-Fi_Fixes>
From: John Navas on 10 Jun 2010 21:47 On Mon, 31 May 2010 10:24:06 -0700, in <2iq706dj0eehaq7d3jaq9o5le5us6almrd(a)4ax.com>, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl(a)cruzio.com> wrote: >Speaking of conservative, I still use vi to edit my code. No offense, but YUCK! Try VEDIT. >I still >can't debug well on the screen. ... I couldn't work effectively without a visual debugger. >Old habits die hard. For some. Not for all. ;) -- Best regards, FAQ for Wireless Internet: <http://wireless.navas.us> John FAQ for Wi-Fi: <http://wireless.navas.us/wiki/Wi-Fi> Wi-Fi How To: <http://wireless.navas.us/wiki/Wi-Fi_HowTo> Fixes to Wi-Fi Problems: <http://wireless.navas.us/wiki/Wi-Fi_Fixes>
From: John Navas on 10 Jun 2010 21:48 On Mon, 31 May 2010 10:40:34 -0700, in <310520101040349085%nospam(a)nospam.invalid>, nospam <nospam(a)nospam.invalid> wrote: >In article <2iq706dj0eehaq7d3jaq9o5le5us6almrd(a)4ax.com>, Jeff >Liebermann <jeffl(a)cruzio.com> wrote: > >> Yep. Computer users are VERY conservative and difficult to change. At >> the time, there were 3 basic types of word processors. The mouse >> driven variety, as exemplified by MacWrite, the function key driven >> variety, as in WordPerfect, and the control-key flavor, as found in >> Wordstar. I found that I could move a customer from one word >> processor to another as long as I stayed within the interface that >> they were familiar with using. However, moving from a keyboard >> intensive word processor, to a mouse driven flavor, was almost >> impossible. > >things never change. people have problems understanding the transition >from mouse/keyboard interfaces on a mac or pc to touch based interfaces >on an ipad. > >mobile devices *will* be the future, whether it's an ipad or something >else. Sure. Most computers are now "mobile devices". -- Best regards, FAQ for Wireless Internet: <http://wireless.navas.us> John FAQ for Wi-Fi: <http://wireless.navas.us/wiki/Wi-Fi> Wi-Fi How To: <http://wireless.navas.us/wiki/Wi-Fi_HowTo> Fixes to Wi-Fi Problems: <http://wireless.navas.us/wiki/Wi-Fi_Fixes>
From: John Navas on 10 Jun 2010 21:50 On Mon, 31 May 2010 11:39:45 -0700, in <michelle-D47B08.11394531052010(a)news.eternal-september.org>, Michelle Steiner <michelle(a)michelle.org> wrote: >In article <2iq706dj0eehaq7d3jaq9o5le5us6almrd(a)4ax.com>, > Jeff Liebermann <jeffl(a)cruzio.com> wrote: >> Apple also didn't seem to consider this a problem. > >That's because that wasn't Apple's target market for the Macintosh. That's the usual Apple copout, which has cost it dearly many times in the past. >> >Oh yeah, they insisted on amber (first choice) or green (reluctant >> >second choice). >> >> Yep. Computer users are VERY conservative and difficult to change. > >Most of them were first-time buyers who had been told what to look for by >self-proclaimed "experts" or by computer magazines that published those >criteria before the Mac was introduced. The Mac was just a cheap copy of the Lisa, which was just a cheap copy of the Xerox Alto. -- Best regards, FAQ for Wireless Internet: <http://wireless.navas.us> John FAQ for Wi-Fi: <http://wireless.navas.us/wiki/Wi-Fi> Wi-Fi How To: <http://wireless.navas.us/wiki/Wi-Fi_HowTo> Fixes to Wi-Fi Problems: <http://wireless.navas.us/wiki/Wi-Fi_Fixes>
From: John Navas on 10 Jun 2010 21:51
On Tue, 01 Jun 2010 13:57:58 +1200, in <your.name-0106101357580001(a)203-109-168-122.dial.dyn.ihug.co.nz>, your.name(a)isp.com (Your Name) wrote: >In article <michelle-FA0D59.15112831052010(a)news.eternal-september.org>, >Michelle Steiner <michelle(a)michelle.org> wrote: > >> In article <kk9806lb0pqmfkh6a3brvhfmf94js0inje(a)4ax.com>, >> Jeff Liebermann <jeffl(a)cruzio.com> wrote: >> >> > Incidentally, I got a bit of a surprise when I plugged a 3 button PC >> > mouse into my antique Mac Cube running OS/X 10.4.xx. The right button >> > worked as expected (show options) as did the roller (scroll up/down). >> > This was a pleasant surprise after living with only one button for so >> > long. >> >> Mac OS X has always supported two-button mice. Some earlier versions of >> Mac OS also supported them as well. > >Any Mac could probably support a two / multi-button mouse if the company >selling the device wanted to write driver software ... but the point is >that the Mac doesn't need a two button mouse. Personally I very rarely had >any need for more than one button. "It's not a limitation, it's a feature!" :) -- Best regards, FAQ for Wireless Internet: <http://wireless.navas.us> John FAQ for Wi-Fi: <http://wireless.navas.us/wiki/Wi-Fi> Wi-Fi How To: <http://wireless.navas.us/wiki/Wi-Fi_HowTo> Fixes to Wi-Fi Problems: <http://wireless.navas.us/wiki/Wi-Fi_Fixes> |