Vulcan .Net and VO 2.8
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From: Rene J. Pajaron on 21 Sep 2006 04:44 Marc, Me too: VO put up my house and my son to a very private school!!!! Rene I cant resist Vulcan. I can save time moving to .Net with this. Ayon kay Marc Verkade [Marti IT]: > Hai, > > Am I a VO evangelist? > I use VO and am happy to earn money with it. > I try to help people here whenever i can. > I provide and maintain a little wbsite with VO samples. > Seeing my name here often does not make me an evangelist. > I am just stating what VO brings for me. > > We have shifted to C# for new development too (a.o. www.cash-it.nl). > We currently are examining the possibility's to migrate our current big VO > apps into the future and Vulcan is an option as is C#, but i must say that I > too are very worried about the progress Grafx makes with Vulcan. > > I stated several times (here and in VOPS) that I am not happy the way Grafx > communicates with people and targeting their deadlines. I too have no > message at all when hearing 'it is finished when it is finished'. My > customers don't buy that when I will tell that to them. But for now, we are > not eager to migrate out main apps right now simply because i do not have > the money to spend several man-years for that new .Net development. > > But the fact remains: I love to program in VO and are very happy with VO. I > like the VOPS because I saves me money. I own m house because of VO. 12 > people can pay their mortgage because of VO. Does that makes me an > evangelist? > > Grtz, Marc > > > > Grtz, Marc > > > "rob" <rob_panosh(a)asdsoftware.com> schreef in bericht > news:1158701105.404099.204160(a)i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > > Marc, > > > > I don't candy coat anything. I have had so much frustration with VO > > and it drives me nuts when other VO evangelist (such as yourself) out > > here try to make excuse for Graphx short falls. > > > > Answer one simple question for me. What has Graphx provided for all > > non VOPS members in the past year? > > > > Cheers, > > Rob > > > > P.S. - My finger still hurts from "Flicking" VO to the side for NEW > > development. LOL! > >
From: Geoff Schaller on 21 Sep 2006 05:00 Otto. > I don't get offended by your posts, because they aren't addressed to me > or concern me until now. But IF THEY WERE, then I would be offended. Then don't. If I truly wanted to offend someone I would but that is not my nature. If you find such things offensive (directed to you or not) then I recommend you review your translation method. > My postings take more time than yours, because I re-read and re-write > them twice at the least. And not (just) because of the language > barrier. I absolutely understand this and I totally respect you and the myriads of other folks who make the effort to communicate here. Honestly. That is why I say you must sometimes look behind the words and not take them so exactly. It just isn't what is going on. And unfortunately Aussies can be more direct than Europeans like <g>. Geoff
From: Karl Faller on 21 Sep 2006 05:19 Geoff, >and unfortunately Aussies >can be more direct than Europeans like <g>. We learned that, if not, we would have set you all on blacklist <g> Nevertheless, i feel sometimes the line between direct and rude is crossed the wrong way, and a bit more concern to civility might be appropriate. Karl
From: E?!k V!sser on 21 Sep 2006 05:21 Heiko, > As we say in Germany 'Apples and Pears'. Same expression in Dutch. And yes there are differences, but also a lot of similarities happened to have trees of both of them. Name me one piece of fruit that comes closes to an apple than a pear. In my comparison the subscription idea is the similarity. You pay for something and during a period you get it. > With VO I have also payed for > VULCAN (full license) and I cant see why I cant get all new builds > until the release date. > As I wrote in a previous message I dont > expecting a real support from GrafX after the paying period but what is > wrong with a access to the newest builds and access to the > VOPS-Newsgroups (for all I care only for reading) ? I do not want to sound like i had anything to do with this, but you will get the Vulcan.NET, That was the deal and when do subscribed, nobody told you would get updates of pre-beta version of Vulcan after ending your subscription. That deal was (at least could be) clear at that time, so I really do not see you have a point here. > Anyway! I'm now happy with C# and VO2.7 for legacy Apps - no need > anymore for the VULCAN or VO.whatever stuff... So you do not want it and you do not need it. So what are you moaning about? Erik
From: Marc Verkade [Marti IT] on 21 Sep 2006 06:14
Or not look behind the words and take them as they are.. <g> Grtz, Marc "Geoff Schaller" <geoff(a)xxxsoftwareobjectives.com.au> schreef in bericht news:4512549d$1(a)dnews.tpgi.com.au... > Otto. > >> I don't get offended by your posts, because they aren't addressed to me >> or concern me until now. But IF THEY WERE, then I would be offended. > > Then don't. If I truly wanted to offend someone I would but that is not my > nature. If you find such things offensive (directed to you or not) then I > recommend you review your translation method. > >> My postings take more time than yours, because I re-read and re-write >> them twice at the least. And not (just) because of the language >> barrier. > > I absolutely understand this and I totally respect you and the myriads of > other folks who make the effort to communicate here. Honestly. That is why > I say you must sometimes look behind the words and not take them so > exactly. It just isn't what is going on. And unfortunately Aussies can be > more direct than Europeans like <g>. > > Geoff > > |