Does God need to prove He exists?
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From: BuddyThunder on 1 Jul 2008 16:18 rbwinn wrote: > On Jun 30, 6:36 pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)" > <alwh...(a)optusnet.com.au> wrote: >> On Jun 30, 5:19 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >>> On Jun 29, 7:42 pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)" >>> <alwh...(a)optusnet.com.au> wrote: >>>> On Jun 27, 10:36 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote: >>>>> On Jun 22, 1:04 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...(a)paradise.net.nz> wrote: >>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>> On Jun 21, 4:09 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...(a)paradise.net.nz> wrote: >>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>>>> On Jun 21, 8:16�am, "Alex W." <ing...(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> "Steve O" <nospamh...(a)thanks.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>> news:6c4ja8F3erpl2U1(a)mid.individual.net... >>>>>>>>>>> If you think that Harry Potter is fiction then you must also think that >>>>>>>>>>> London doesn't exist right? >>>>>>>>>>> You'd better tell that to all of the people who live there, it may come as >>>>>>>>>>> a surprise to them. >>>>>>>>>> Like the esteemed Mr Winn Esq, London councils have no doubt whatsoever >>>>>>>>>> about the existence of London. �At least, that is what they profess when >>>>>>>>>> they send out council tax demands. >>>>>>>>> Taxes. Well, that is something that should convince some atheists. >>>>>>>>> Taxes are something they will never deny. >>>>>>>> Are taxes evidence that any gods exist?- Hide quoted text - >>>>>>>> - Show quoted text - >>>>>>> Taxes are evidence that atheists exist. >>>>>> I'm sure that you believe that. Why should we? >>>>>> Who needs more evidence that atheists exist? Some supporting evidence >>>>>> for gods would be of more intersest.- Hide quoted text - >>>>>> - Show quoted text - >>>>> Well, we offered the Bible as evidence, and you said that it was all >>>>> mythology. >>>> No, I think you'll find "we" said it was a book, and not what anyone >>>> would call evidence. >>>>> Then we said, what about the parts that tell of Hezekiah's >>>>> tunnel and the earthen ramp the Assyrian army built over the city wall >>>>> when they took Lachish? Those can still be seen today. >>>> And we said so what? What does that have to do with the other bits >>>> you're claiming are true. >>>>> No, Harry >>>>> Potter left from the train station in London to go to wizard's school, >>>>> so the city of London does not exist. >>>>> But I know a man from London. He says that Harry Potter does not >>>>> exist. Atheists do not believe that I know a man from London. >>>>> Tell me how a supporting evidence means anything to an atheist. >>>>> Robert B. Winn >>>> And then you exhibited willful misinterpretation of everything anyone >>>> said and proceeded to mumble on about fictional characters. >>>> Al- Hide quoted text - >>>> - Show quoted text - >>> I did not misrepresent anything any atheist said. If they want to try >>> to change a discussion about Hezekiah's tunnel into a discussion of >>> Harry Potter, I will refer back to Harry Potter, but it was not my >>> mistake. >>> Robert B. Winn >> That's got to be the biggest lie so far. Can you show us a single >> instance in this thread of an atheist saying that every single thing >> in the bible is false? Or an atheist saying that there is no tunnel >> aquaduct roughly where the bible says one was dug? >> No, you can't. Because no-one said it. But you constantly claim that >> you're arguing against people who claim so. >> >> Al- Hide quoted text - >> > > Well, yes, one atheist did say the tunnel was a hoax perpetrated by > Jerusalem tour guides. Liar!
From: Steve O on 1 Jul 2008 16:19 "rbwinn" <rbwinn3(a)juno.com> wrote in message news:1b3c0320-7d0e-4786-8ed4-242c725f9069(a)a1g2000hsb.googlegroups.com... > On Jul 1, 9:55 am, "Steve O" <nospamh...(a)thanks.com> wrote: >> "rbwinn" <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote in message >> >> news:1138ce05-69cb-453e-9b75-8f58b452581f(a)34g2000hsh.googlegroups.com... >> >> >> >> >> >> > On Jun 30, 11:59 pm, "Steve O" <nospamh...(a)thanks.com> wrote: >> >> "rbwinn" <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote in message >> >> >>news:2cd82a5a-f445-4105-b500-b805f0662927(a)s33g2000pri.googlegroups.com... >> >> >> > On Jun 30, 3:09�pm, "Steve O" <nospamh...(a)thanks.com> wrote: >> >> >> "rbwinn" <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote in message >> >> >> news:61174020-7051-443b-87a2- >> >> >> > I have never seen an atheist who opposes abortion. �I believe >> >> >> > that >> >> >> > pro- >> >> >> > life atheists are mythological. >> >> >> > Robert B. Winn >> >> >> >> You've never seen one, but you have communicated with one. >> >> >> I am an atheist who is opposed to abortion. >> >> >> We are no longer mythological. >> >> >> How do you reconcile that with your twisted worldview? >> >> >> > Well, to be honest, Steve, I do not believe you. >> >> > Robert B. Winn >> >> >> My statement is supportable. >> >> All you have to do is Google previous posts on abortion to see where I >> >> stand >> >> on the subject. >> >> You can continue with your inaccurate belief if you wish to, but all >> >> it >> >> serves to do is highlight your wilful ignorance and inability to >> >> establish >> >> facts. >> >> > Well, I don't think we need to do that. Let's just examine the matter >> > a little. What do you think about this scripture? Luke 2:5 To be >> > taxed with Mary his espoused wife being great with child. >> > Robert B. Winn >> >> It's a simple statement which refers to the supposed responsibility that >> the >> Joseph character assumed when he took on a pregnant woman to be his wife. >> Let's save ourselves a lot of time here- I'm already yards ahead of you. >> You are going to point out that the bible refers to a pregnant woman as >> having a "child" inside her rather than a foetus, right, thereby >> asserting >> the biblical opinion that according to God, a foetus is classified as a >> human being? >> Am I right? >> If I am, I already have an answer for you. >> Unless you were already aware, there are several parts of the bible which >> indicate that any child under 1 month old was not considered to be a >> person. >> According to the bible, a child under 1 month old is not counted as a >> person >> and abortion is not murder. >> To support that, I'll refer you to Numbers 3 ;15-16 and Exodus 21 ; >> 22-23. >> However, as I consider the bible to be little more than nonsense, I can >> assure you that it is not the reason for my opposition to abortion. >> >> >> - Show quoted text - > > Well, Steve, you do not seem very good at interpreting the Bible. I think I'm far better at it than you are. > Anyway, I think you opposition to abortion comes and goes according to > the need for an atheist who says he is opposed to abortion. > Robert B. Winn You think?? You need more practice. My opposition to abortion stems from the fact that a fertilized egg contains all of the genetic information for a complete and unique human being. It is the loss of that potential I am opposed to. -- Steve O a.a. #2240 (Apatheist Chapter) B.A.A.W.A. Convicted by Earthquack, Exempt from purgatory by papal indulgence "I have a miraculous picture of Jesus - if you look really closely at the face, you can see a burnt tortilla"
From: BuddyThunder on 1 Jul 2008 16:20 rbwinn wrote: > On Jul 1, 12:52 am, BuddyThunder <nos...(a)paradise.net.nz> wrote: >> Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al) wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >>> On Jul 1, 10:31 am, rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote: >>>> On Jun 30, 2:57�pm, "Steve O" <nospamh...(a)thanks.com> wrote: >>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote in message news:deedcfe4-50c8-4aba-9a1f- >>>>>> I am still in the religion I was born in. �I picked the religion I am in >>>>>> before I >>>>>> was born. >>>>>> Robert B. Winn >>>>> Probably the most idiotic thing you have ever said. >>>>> Go on, I dare you try and explain this statement without looking like the >>>>> fool you are. >>>>> -- >>>>> Steve O >>>> Jeremiah chapter 1. >>>> Robert B. Winn >>> That's Jeremiah the Bullfrog >> Heh heh, good buddy of mine, knows his wine.- Hide quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text - > > Did you know that when Hoyt Axton first wrote that song the words > were, Jeremiah was a prophet, he was a good friend of mine, etc. Then > when the atheistic rock band, Three Dog Night got the song, the > changed Jeremiah from a prophet to a bullfrog to make the song more > popular with the atheistic youth. You talk a big game. Cite?
From: Daniel Mandic on 1 Jul 2008 16:36 rbwinn wrote: > I don't believe your fables. > Robert B. Winn I believe Our POST will make analog telephoning again. (In a whimp) Kind regards, Daniel Mandic
From: mitch.nicolas.raemsch on 1 Jul 2008 16:41
There was a beginning to time but no before. Therefore there must be a Beginner. Mitch Raemsch |