Does God need to prove He exists?
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From: rbwinn on 3 Jul 2008 00:35 On Jul 2, 4:01�pm, Free Lunch <lu...(a)nofreelunch.us> wrote: > On Tue, 1 Jul 2008 22:11:58 -0700 (PDT), in alt.atheism > rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote in > <c814e6b2-460a-44d6-b765-aad82332d...(a)z72g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>: > > > > > > >On Jul 1, 5:03?pm, Free Lunch <lu...(a)nofreelunch.us> wrote: > >> On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 12:24:32 -0700 (PDT), in alt.atheism > >> rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote in > >> <6fbc8acb-105d-435d-b962-ddf76fb3d...(a)p39g2000prm.googlegroups.com>: > > >> >On Jun 30, 12:25?am, BuddyThunder <nos...(a)paradise.net.nz> wrote: > >> >> rbwinn wrote: > >> >> > On Jun 28, 6:06?pm, Free Lunch <lu...(a)nofreelunch.us> wrote: > >> >> >> On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 17:26:59 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> > >> >> >> wrote in alt.atheism: > > >> >> >>> On Jun 28, 12:50?pm, Free Lunch <lu...(a)nofreelunch.us> wrote: > >> >> >>>> On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 12:11:54 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> > >> >> >>>> wrote in alt.atheism: > >> >> >>>>> On Jun 28, 7:17?am, Free Lunch <lu...(a)nofreelunch.us> wrote: > >> >> >>>>>> On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 07:05:42 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> > >> >> >>>>>> wrote in alt.atheism: > >> >> >>>>>>> On Jun 28, 12:26?am, BuddyThunder <nos...(a)paradise.net.nz> wrote: > >> >> >>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >> >> >>>>>>>>> On Jun 27, 6:42?pm, BuddyThunder <nos...(a)paradise.net.nz> wrote: > >> >> >>>>>>>>>> Jack wrote: > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> I am upset by *people* who > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> believe that the Bible is anything more than mythology and try ?to impose > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> their > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> beliefs on me ?using the Bible as evidence. > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>> How can someone impose a belief on you? ?Just believe whatever you want to > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>> believe. > >> >> >>>>>>>>>> The wrong part is when people attempt to use the myth to formulate > >> >> >>>>>>>>>> public policy or indoctrinate children or inform foreign policy. > >> >> >>>>>>>>> Well, actually they use fables. ?The apostles Paul said they would be > >> >> >>>>>>>>> turned to fables in the last days. ?A fable is a story about animals > >> >> >>>>>>>>> like the story about monkeys turning into humans. > >> >> >>>>>>>> Wow, you're ignorant about evolution. Colour me surprised. > >> >> >>>>>>> In what way am I ignorant about evolution? > >> >> >>>>>> Monkeys and humans do share a common ancestor. Your denial of the fact > >> >> >>>>>> does not change that fact.- Hide quoted text - > >> >> >>>>>> - Show quoted text - > >> >> >>>>> Charles Darwin was not my ancestor. > >> >> >>>> So? > >> >> >>>> Evolution happens. Learn to deal with reality.- Hide quoted text - > >> >> >>>> - Show quoted text - > >> >> >>> I never have believed in evolution. ?I think it is a fable, just as > >> >> >>> Paul said it was. > >> >> >> Paul knew nothing about it. You mock the Bible with such silly > >> >> >> interpretations of it.- Hide quoted text - > > >> >> >> - Show quoted text - > > >> >> > I just believe what Paul said. ?You seem a little upset that I do not > >> >> > believe your fable. > > >> >> Can you please identify what he said about it? Please?- Hide quoted text - > > >> >> - Show quoted text - > > >> >2 Tim 4:3 ?For the time will come when they will not endure sound > >> >doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves > >> >teachers, having itching ears; > >> >4 ? And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be > >> >turned unto fables. > > >> As you _know_, this says nothing about evolution. I've see > >> three-year-olds who can tell more convincing lies than you do.- Hide quoted text - > > >> - Show quoted text - > > >Well, I think we should just wait until after the resurrection and ask > >Paul if he was talking about evolution. > >Robert B. Winn > > Why do you avoid the question? > > I might as well say that we should wait until Ragnarok to find out if > you are Loki.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Anything I say you are just going to say I am lying. I think you need to talk to the apostle Paul in order to become convinced. That means it will have to wait until you are resurrected. Robert B. Winn Robert B. Winn
From: rbwinn on 3 Jul 2008 00:38 On Jul 2, 4:02�pm, Free Lunch <lu...(a)nofreelunch.us> wrote: > On Tue, 1 Jul 2008 22:12:42 -0700 (PDT), in alt.atheism > rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote in > <36321999-e6aa-4a55-a3a8-0bbda160a...(a)x41g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>: > > > > > > >On Jul 1, 5:04?pm, Free Lunch <lu...(a)nofreelunch.us> wrote: > >> On Tue, 1 Jul 2008 00:18:41 -0700 (PDT), in alt.atheism > >> rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote in > >> <d3304d52-69f8-4f5b-8d69-2f5ce05a9...(a)z66g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>: > > >> >On Jun 30, 4:00?pm, Free Lunch <lu...(a)nofreelunch.us> wrote: > >> >> On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 12:26:07 -0700 (PDT), in alt.atheism > >> >> rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote in > >> >> <b804ab27-a92f-4ef2-a69c-54dd80028...(a)j33g2000pri.googlegroups.com>: > > >> >> >On Jun 30, 12:25?am, BuddyThunder <nos...(a)paradise.net.nz> wrote: > >> >> >> Free Lunch wrote: > >> >> >> > On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 15:15:20 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno..com> > >> >> >> > wrote in alt.atheism: > > >> >> >> >> On Jun 28, 6:06?pm, Free Lunch <lu...(a)nofreelunch.us> wrote: > >> >> >> >>> On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 17:26:59 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> > >> >> >> >>> wrote in alt.atheism: > > >> >> >> >>>> On Jun 28, 12:50?pm, Free Lunch <lu...(a)nofreelunch.us> wrote: > >> >> >> >>>>> On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 12:11:54 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> > >> >> >> >>>>> wrote in alt.atheism: > >> >> >> >>>>>> On Jun 28, 7:17?am, Free Lunch <lu...(a)nofreelunch.us> wrote: > >> >> >> >>>>>>> On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 07:05:42 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi....(a)juno.com> > >> >> >> >>>>>>> wrote in alt.atheism: > >> >> >> >>>>>>>> On Jun 28, 12:26?am, BuddyThunder <nos...(a)paradise.net.nz> wrote: > >> >> >> >>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>> On Jun 27, 6:42?pm, BuddyThunder <nos...(a)paradise.net..nz> wrote: > >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>> Jack wrote: > >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I am upset by *people* who > >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> believe that the Bible is anything more than mythology and try ?to impose > >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> their > >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> beliefs on me ?using the Bible as evidence. > >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> How can someone impose a belief on you? ?Just believe whatever you want to > >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> believe. > >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>> The wrong part is when people attempt to use the myth to formulate > >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>> public policy or indoctrinate children or inform foreign policy. > >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>> Well, actually they use fables. ?The apostles Paul said they would be > >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>> turned to fables in the last days. ?A fable is a story about animals > >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>> like the story about monkeys turning into humans. > >> >> >> >>>>>>>>> Wow, you're ignorant about evolution. Colour me surprised. > >> >> >> >>>>>>>> In what way am I ignorant about evolution? > >> >> >> >>>>>>> Monkeys and humans do share a common ancestor. Your denial of the fact > >> >> >> >>>>>>> does not change that fact.- Hide quoted text - > >> >> >> >>>>>>> - Show quoted text - > >> >> >> >>>>>> Charles Darwin was not my ancestor. > >> >> >> >>>>> So? > >> >> >> >>>>> Evolution happens. Learn to deal with reality.- Hide quoted text - > >> >> >> >>>>> - Show quoted text - > >> >> >> >>>> I never have believed in evolution. ?I think it is a fable, just as > >> >> >> >>>> Paul said it was. > >> >> >> >>> Paul knew nothing about it. You mock the Bible with such silly > >> >> >> >>> interpretations of it.- Hide quoted text - > > >> >> >> >>> - Show quoted text - > >> >> >> >> I just believe what Paul said. ?You seem a little upset that I do not > >> >> >> >> believe your fable. > > >> >> >> > Your problem is that you _lied_ about what Paul said. He _never_ said > >> >> >> > that evolution was a fable. That was the lie you told, one you cannot > >> >> >> > back up with _anything_ in the Bible, not from Paul, not from anywhere. > > >> >> >> It's gotta be tough to keep 'em all in a row this far down the road!- Hide quoted text - > > >> >> >> - Show quoted text - > > >> >> >Well, if Paul had named Charles Darwin by name, atheists would claim > >> >> >he was not talking about evolution. > > >> >> You know you lied to us, but you are trying to run away from your > >> >> behavior when you were caught.- Hide quoted text - > > >> >> - Show quoted text - > > >> >Sorry, I believe Paul, not your fable. > >> >Robert B. Winn > > >> More lies from you.- Hide quoted text - > > >> - Show quoted text - > > >No, I really do believe Paul. �I think he had it exactly right. > > So, he made claims that are contrary to reality, and you buy his BS > rather than reality. > > You are delusional.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - I believe anything Paul says. He had better information than practically anyone who ever existed. Robert B. Winn
From: rbwinn on 3 Jul 2008 00:39 On Jul 2, 4:03�pm, Free Lunch <lu...(a)nofreelunch.us> wrote: > On Tue, 1 Jul 2008 22:38:13 -0700 (PDT), in alt.atheism > rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote in > <57394af9-c4e1-41e3-9575-3efdee6c1...(a)k13g2000hse.googlegroups.com>: > > > > > > >On Jul 1, 7:11?pm, Free Lunch <lu...(a)nofreelunch.us> wrote: > >> On Tue, 1 Jul 2008 18:23:02 -0700 (PDT), in alt.atheism > >> rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote in > >> <5a6e721c-a4e8-41e0-b92d-5724b8818...(a)c58g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>: > > >> >On Jul 1, 1:13?pm, BuddyThunder <nos...(a)paradise.net.nz> wrote: > >> >> rbwinn wrote: > > >> >> >> atheists.- Hide quoted text - > > >> >> >> - Show quoted text - > > >> >> > Well, I am sure you will not. ?What would their reaction be to > >> >> > discover that the apostle Paul had identified the theory of evolution > >> >> > as a fable? > > >> >> They would accuse you of lying too. It's the only sensible reaction to > >> >> your lies.- Hide quoted text - > > >> >> - Show quoted text - > > >> >Well, I think that is exactly right. ?Atheists accuse anyone who > >> >disagrees with their atheistic doctrines of lying. > > >> That's your excuse. I call you a liar because you are lying. It has > >> nothing to do with disagreeing with you, it has to do with the fact that > >> you have chosen to lie repeatedly to us. It must be sad for you that > >> everyone, even the lowly atheists, can see how totally untrustworthy and > >> dishonest you are.- Hide quoted text - > > >> - Show quoted text - > > >Uh huh. �Well, why is it that you think I should care what you think > >about me? > > You should care about the impression you make. Being a liar doesn't earn > you respect, not even from those who share your beliefs.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - People who share my beliefs never accuse me of lying. We get along fine. Robert B. Winn
From: rbwinn on 3 Jul 2008 00:40 On Jul 2, 4:03�pm, Free Lunch <lu...(a)nofreelunch.us> wrote: > On Tue, 1 Jul 2008 22:13:21 -0700 (PDT), in alt.atheism > rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote in > <f028bc18-d1bb-4772-a436-fb649e3ff...(a)59g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>: > > > > > > >On Jul 1, 5:05?pm, Free Lunch <lu...(a)nofreelunch.us> wrote: > >> On Tue, 1 Jul 2008 07:31:29 -0700 (PDT), in alt.atheism > >> rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote in > >> <ccc732d9-4c47-442b-ad22-fc806fe8b...(a)z66g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>: > > >> >On Jul 1, 12:32?am, BuddyThunder <nos...(a)paradise.net.nz> wrote: > >> >> Free Lunch wrote: > >> >> > On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 12:26:07 -0700 (PDT), in alt.atheism > >> >> > rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote in > >> >> > <b804ab27-a92f-4ef2-a69c-54dd80028...(a)j33g2000pri.googlegroups.com>: > >> >> >> On Jun 30, 12:25?am, BuddyThunder <nos...(a)paradise.net.nz> wrote: > >> >> >>> Free Lunch wrote: > >> >> >>>> On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 15:15:20 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno..com> > >> >> >>>> wrote in alt.atheism: > >> >> >>>>> On Jun 28, 6:06?pm, Free Lunch <lu...(a)nofreelunch.us> wrote: > >> >> >>>>>> On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 17:26:59 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> > >> >> >>>>>> wrote in alt.atheism: > >> >> >>>>>>> On Jun 28, 12:50?pm, Free Lunch <lu...(a)nofreelunch.us> wrote: > >> >> >>>>>>>> On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 12:11:54 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> > >> >> >>>>>>>> wrote in alt.atheism: > >> >> >>>>>>>>> On Jun 28, 7:17?am, Free Lunch <lu...(a)nofreelunch.us> wrote: > >> >> >>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 07:05:42 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi....(a)juno.com> > >> >> >>>>>>>>>> wrote in alt.atheism: > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 28, 12:26?am, BuddyThunder <nos...(a)paradise.net.nz> wrote: > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 27, 6:42?pm, BuddyThunder <nos...(a)paradise.net..nz> wrote: > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jack wrote: > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am upset by *people* who > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> believe that the Bible is anything more than mythology and try ?to impose > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> their > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> beliefs on me ?using the Bible as evidence. > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How can someone impose a belief on you? ?Just believe whatever you want to > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> believe. > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The wrong part is when people attempt to use the myth to formulate > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> public policy or indoctrinate children or inform foreign policy. > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, actually they use fables. ?The apostles Paul said they would be > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> turned to fables in the last days. ?A fable is a story about animals > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> like the story about monkeys turning into humans. > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> Wow, you're ignorant about evolution. Colour me surprised. > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>> In what way am I ignorant about evolution? > >> >> >>>>>>>>>> Monkeys and humans do share a common ancestor. Your denial of the fact > >> >> >>>>>>>>>> does not change that fact.- Hide quoted text - > >> >> >>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text - > >> >> >>>>>>>>> Charles Darwin was not my ancestor. > >> >> >>>>>>>> So? > >> >> >>>>>>>> Evolution happens. Learn to deal with reality.- Hide quoted text - > >> >> >>>>>>>> - Show quoted text - > >> >> >>>>>>> I never have believed in evolution. ?I think it is a fable, just as > >> >> >>>>>>> Paul said it was. > >> >> >>>>>> Paul knew nothing about it. You mock the Bible with such silly > >> >> >>>>>> interpretations of it.- Hide quoted text - > >> >> >>>>>> - Show quoted text - > >> >> >>>>> I just believe what Paul said. ?You seem a little upset that I do not > >> >> >>>>> believe your fable. > >> >> >>>> Your problem is that you _lied_ about what Paul said. He _never_ said > >> >> >>>> that evolution was a fable. That was the lie you told, one you cannot > >> >> >>>> back up with _anything_ in the Bible, not from Paul, not from anywhere. > >> >> >>> It's gotta be tough to keep 'em all in a row this far down the road!- Hide quoted text - > > >> >> >>> - Show quoted text - > >> >> >> Well, if Paul had named Charles Darwin by name, atheists would claim > >> >> >> he was not talking about evolution. > > >> >> > You know you lied to us, but you are trying to run away from your > >> >> > behavior when you were caught. > > >> >> It is not weakness to admit a mistake, Robert. We won't tell the other > >> >> atheists.- Hide quoted text - > > >> >> - Show quoted text - > > >> >Well, I am sure you will not. ?What would their reaction be to > >> >discover that the apostle Paul had identified the theory of evolution > >> >as a fable? > > >> He did not. You lied to us about that. Remember?- Hide quoted text - > > >> - Show quoted text - > > >Well, the best one to ask about that would be Paul. > > Paul is dead.- Hide quoted text - > Well, that is why you will have to wait until both of you have been resurrected. I think Paul would be able to convince you. Robert B. Winn
From: rbwinn on 3 Jul 2008 00:43
On Jul 2, 4:27�pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)" <alwh...(a)optusnet.com.au> wrote: > On Jul 3, 9:05 am, Free Lunch <lu...(a)nofreelunch.us> wrote: > > > > > > > On Wed, 2 Jul 2008 06:30:07 -0700 (PDT), in alt.atheism > > rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote in > > <9d32304c-87db-40a5-9926-554cefe79...(a)k30g2000hse.googlegroups.com>: > > > >On Jul 2, 12:13 am, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)" > > ><alwh...(a)optusnet.com.au> wrote: > > >> On Jul 2, 3:34 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote: > > > >> > On Jul 1, 6:43 pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)" > > > >> > <alwh...(a)optusnet.com.au> wrote: > > >> > > On Jul 2, 11:27 am, rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote: > > > >> > > > On Jul 1, 1:14 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...(a)paradise.net.nz> wrote: > > > >> > > > > rbwinn wrote: > > >> > > > > > On Jul 1, 12:34 am, BuddyThunder <nos...(a)paradise.net.nz> wrote: > > >> > > > > >> rbwinn wrote: > > >> > > > > >>> On Jun 30, 12:25 am, BuddyThunder <nos...(a)paradise.net.nz> wrote: > > >> > > > > >>>> rbwinn wrote: > > >> > > > > >>>>> On Jun 28, 6:06?pm, Free Lunch <lu...(a)nofreelunch.us> wrote: > > >> > > > > >>>>>> On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 17:26:59 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> > > >> > > > > >>>>>> wrote in alt.atheism: > > >> > > > > >>>>>>> On Jun 28, 12:50?pm, Free Lunch <lu...(a)nofreelunch.us> wrote: > > >> > > > > >>>>>>>> On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 12:11:54 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> > > >> > > > > >>>>>>>> wrote in alt.atheism: > > >> > > > > >>>>>>>>> On Jun 28, 7:17?am, Free Lunch <lu...(a)nofreelunch.us> wrote: > > >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 07:05:42 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> > > >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> wrote in alt.atheism: > > >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 28, 12:26?am, BuddyThunder <nos...(a)paradise.net.nz> wrote: > > >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > > >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 27, 6:42?pm, BuddyThunder <nos...(a)paradise.net.nz> wrote: > > >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jack wrote: > > >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am upset by *people* who > > >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> believe that the Bible is anything more than mythology and try ?to impose > > >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> their > > >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> beliefs on me ?using the Bible as evidence. > > >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How can someone impose a belief on you? ?Just believe whatever you want to > > >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> believe. > > >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The wrong part is when people attempt to use the myth to formulate > > >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> public policy or indoctrinate children or inform foreign policy. > > >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, actually they use fables. ?The apostles Paul said they would be > > >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> turned to fables in the last days. ?A fable is a story about animals > > >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> like the story about monkeys turning into humans. > > >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Wow, you're ignorant about evolution. Colour me surprised. > > >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> In what way am I ignorant about evolution? > > >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Monkeys and humans do share a common ancestor. Your denial of the fact > > >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> does not change that fact.- Hide quoted text - > > >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text - > > >> > > > > >>>>>>>>> Charles Darwin was not my ancestor. > > >> > > > > >>>>>>>> So? > > >> > > > > >>>>>>>> Evolution happens. Learn to deal with reality.- Hide quoted text - > > >> > > > > >>>>>>>> - Show quoted text - > > >> > > > > >>>>>>> I never have believed in evolution. ?I think it is a fable, just as > > >> > > > > >>>>>>> Paul said it was. > > >> > > > > >>>>>> Paul knew nothing about it. You mock the Bible with such silly > > >> > > > > >>>>>> interpretations of it.- Hide quoted text - > > >> > > > > >>>>>> - Show quoted text - > > >> > > > > >>>>> I just believe what Paul said. �You seem a little upset that I do not > > >> > > > > >>>>> believe your fable. > > >> > > > > >>>> Can you please identify what he said about it? Please?- Hide quoted text - > > >> > > > > >>>> - Show quoted text - > > >> > > > > >>> 2 Tim 4:3 �For the time will come when they will not endure sound > > >> > > > > >>> doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves > > >> > > > > >>> teachers, having itching ears; > > >> > > > > >>> 4 � And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be > > >> > > > > >>> turned unto fables. > > >> > > > > >> I can't see any mention of evolution. I can't even see any description > > >> > > > > >> of the theory, or even a theistic strawman description. Can you help me > > >> > > > > >> out? You made a claim that seems difficult to substantiate.- Hide quoted text - > > > >> > > > > >> - Show quoted text - > > > >> > > > > > Well, I think we are getting into subject matter that is too difficult > > >> > > > > > for you. �Maybe we should go back to Hezekiah's tunnel. > > > >> > > > > I'm not struggling, maybe you could point out the verse where evolution > > >> > > > > is singled out. Maybe he's talking about the germ theory of disease. I'm > > >> > > > > sure you believe that demons are behind illness, rather than pathogens.- Hide quoted text - > > > >> > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > >> > > > Well, Paul said that in the last days, men would be turned to fables > > >> > > > to explain things. �So today we see science explaining most things by > > >> > > > fables. > > >> > > > Robert B. Winn > > > >> > > Please explain how "evolution" counts as a fable? �And we'll show you > > >> > > how you understanding of evolution is horribly wrong. > > > >> > > Al- Hide quoted text - > > > >> > > - Show quoted text - > > > >> > Well, as Paul pointed out, in the last days men would be unable to > > >> > endure sound doctrine and would devise a fable to try to explain the > > >> > existence of mankind without a God. > > >> > Robert B. Winn > > > >> That doesn't relate evolution to a fable. > > >> Do you ever answer a question that isn't just from your own > > >> imagination? > > > >> Al- Hide quoted text - > > > >> - Show quoted text - > > > >It happened just the way Paul said it would. > > > Yep, Paul knew that people would catch his BS. > > It is a very reliable prediction when everything else he happens to be > saying is complete garbage. �It's wonderful mental slight of hand.. > Meaningful it ain't, but top notch quackery. > > Al- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Well, it may not seem meaningful to the people he was talking about. Robert B. Winn |