Does God need to prove He exists?
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From: Smiler on 5 Jul 2008 20:20 "Free Lunch" <lunch(a)nofreelunch.us> wrote in message news:i2nt649tvtdd1sofkag02co4c9n4s1vt6e(a)4ax.com... > On Fri, 4 Jul 2008 19:26:01 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwinn3(a)juno.com> wrote > in alt.atheism: > >>On Jul 4, 8:42?am, Free Lunch <lu...(a)nofreelunch.us> wrote: >>> On Fri, 4 Jul 2008 08:28:00 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote >>> in alt.atheism: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >On Jul 4, 3:03?am, The Natural Philosopher <a...(a)b.c> wrote: >>> >> Alex W. wrote: >>> >> > "rbwinn" <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote in message >>> >> >news:9fadb87c-6364-49eb-9ca6-c8fd555f6cd3(a)a70g2000hsh.googlegroups.com... >>> >> > On Jul 3, 6:05?am, "Alex W." <ing...(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: >>> >> >> "rbwinn" <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote in message >>> >>> >> >>news:f807e4d0-b40f-4cb8-bb4c-12f00021898d(a)34g2000hsh.googlegroups.com... >>> >>> >> >> Well, the scriptures say that the wicked would be more miserable >>> >> >> in >>> >> >> the presence of God than with the devils in hell. >>> >>> >> >> =========== >>> >>> >> >> In other words, since we are all sinful by definition, the smart >>> >> >> choice is >>> >> >> to aim for hell in the first place. ?Nice morality .... >>> >>> >> > No, the smart choice is to repent of sins. ?However, atheists claim >>> >> > that nothing they do is sin, so they are not going to repent. >>> >>> >> Which to me indicates you have no idea what sin, or repentance, is. >>> >>> >> > ========== >>> >>> >> > Sin is a social construct. ?It exists irrespective of the god(s) >>> >> > worshipped >>> >> > ... or not, as the case may be.- Hide quoted text - >>> >>> >> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - >>> >>> >> - Show quoted text - >>> >>> >Sin is wilful disobedience of God. ?Repentance is confessing and >>> >forsaking sin. >>> >>> As far as we can tell, God is a human invention. God never told us to do >>> anything. Sin, therefore, is also a human invention.- Hide quoted text - >>> >>> - Show quoted text - >> >>So once an atheist enters into sin, there is no turning back from >>it. I guess that was why Josef Stalin killed 12 million people. > > God is still a human invention. Clearly the fear of God does not stop > you from lying in almost every post. > > I will not respond to you for a while, you have become far too nasty in > your discussions here. That's exactly what he wants! If everyone ignored him, he would be free to spread his lies without opposition. The answer is to fight his lies, nastyness and stupidity with the reply it deserves...Ho! <whack>. Smiler, The godless one a.a.# 2279
From: Free Lunch on 5 Jul 2008 20:40 On Sun, 6 Jul 2008 01:20:03 +0100, "Smiler" <Smiler(a)Joe.King.com> wrote in alt.atheism: > >"Free Lunch" <lunch(a)nofreelunch.us> wrote in message >news:i2nt649tvtdd1sofkag02co4c9n4s1vt6e(a)4ax.com... >> On Fri, 4 Jul 2008 19:26:01 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwinn3(a)juno.com> wrote >> in alt.atheism: >> >>>On Jul 4, 8:42?am, Free Lunch <lu...(a)nofreelunch.us> wrote: >>>> On Fri, 4 Jul 2008 08:28:00 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote >>>> in alt.atheism: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >On Jul 4, 3:03?am, The Natural Philosopher <a...(a)b.c> wrote: >>>> >> Alex W. wrote: >>>> >> > "rbwinn" <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote in message >>>> >> >news:9fadb87c-6364-49eb-9ca6-c8fd555f6cd3(a)a70g2000hsh.googlegroups.com... >>>> >> > On Jul 3, 6:05?am, "Alex W." <ing...(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: >>>> >> >> "rbwinn" <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote in message >>>> >>>> >> >>news:f807e4d0-b40f-4cb8-bb4c-12f00021898d(a)34g2000hsh.googlegroups.com... >>>> >>>> >> >> Well, the scriptures say that the wicked would be more miserable >>>> >> >> in >>>> >> >> the presence of God than with the devils in hell. >>>> >>>> >> >> =========== >>>> >>>> >> >> In other words, since we are all sinful by definition, the smart >>>> >> >> choice is >>>> >> >> to aim for hell in the first place. ?Nice morality .... >>>> >>>> >> > No, the smart choice is to repent of sins. ?However, atheists claim >>>> >> > that nothing they do is sin, so they are not going to repent. >>>> >>>> >> Which to me indicates you have no idea what sin, or repentance, is. >>>> >>>> >> > ========== >>>> >>>> >> > Sin is a social construct. ?It exists irrespective of the god(s) >>>> >> > worshipped >>>> >> > ... or not, as the case may be.- Hide quoted text - >>>> >>>> >> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - >>>> >>>> >> - Show quoted text - >>>> >>>> >Sin is wilful disobedience of God. ?Repentance is confessing and >>>> >forsaking sin. >>>> >>>> As far as we can tell, God is a human invention. God never told us to do >>>> anything. Sin, therefore, is also a human invention.- Hide quoted text - >>>> >>>> - Show quoted text - >>> >>>So once an atheist enters into sin, there is no turning back from >>>it. I guess that was why Josef Stalin killed 12 million people. >> >> God is still a human invention. Clearly the fear of God does not stop >> you from lying in almost every post. >> >> I will not respond to you for a while, you have become far too nasty in >> your discussions here. > >That's exactly what he wants! >If everyone ignored him, he would be free to spread his lies without >opposition. >The answer is to fight his lies, nastyness and stupidity with the reply it >deserves...Ho! <whack>. > >Smiler, >The godless one >a.a.# 2279 > I may, particularly if he doesn't take the hint from you.
From: Smiler on 5 Jul 2008 21:02 "Alex W." <ingilt(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message news:6d9qgeF1ipbsU1(a)mid.individual.net... > > "Smiler" <Smiler(a)Joe.King.com> wrote in message > news:S8Abk.233405$M63.176691(a)newsfe13.ams2... >> >> "The Natural Philosopher" <a(a)b.c> wrote in message >> news:1215166412.23766.2(a)proxy01.news.clara.net... >>> rbwinn wrote: > > >>>> >>>> No, we Christians will just wait until he returns the second time. >>>> That was what we were told to do. >>> >>> S'all right Ronbbo, I had him on the spiritual hotline, and he is gonna >>> wait till all the churches are dust and ashes, and come and save the >>> meek instead. >>> >> No, no. You misheard....It was 'the GREEKS shall inherit the Earth' :-) >> Blessed are the cheesemakers. > > Well, obviously, this is not meant to be taken literally. It refers to > any manufacturers of dairy products.... > "Be honest. You don't have ANY cheese in your shop, do you?" Smiler, The godless one a.a.# 2279
From: Smiler on 5 Jul 2008 21:04 "BURT" <macromitch(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message news:6b6f1f0f-3288-476d-a5c4-1fe7bd9adff0(a)a1g2000hsb.googlegroups.com... > There was a Beginning to time but No Before. > > Mitch Raemsch ======================= Ho! <whack> Smiler, The godless one a.a.# 2279
From: rbwinn on 5 Jul 2008 21:46
On Jul 5, 3:53�am, "Alex W." <ing...(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > "rbwinn" <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote in message > > news:62956527-c824-415d-93ab-cdbf47127a02(a)k30g2000hse.googlegroups.com... > On Jul 4, 9:37 am, "Steve O" <nospamh...(a)thanks.com> wrote: > > > For the umpteenth time, we cannot tell Jesus anything. > > If he existed at all, he died nearly 2,000 years ago. > > Apart from an alleged brief visit shortly afterward, he hasn't been seen > > since. > > How can we tell him anything, huh? > > > - Show quoted text - > > Well, it is called prayer. �Christians are commanded to pray. > > ==================== > > And you're sure your prayer gets through ... even though no-one in the > history of Christian prayer has ever answered. �You know, if I dial a number > and get no connection, I may try a few more times, but sooner or later I > realise that there's no phone at the other end .... Well, mine get answered. What made you think they were not? Robert B. Winn |