From: Justin on
nospam wrote on [Wed, 26 May 2010 09:41:33 -0700]:
> In article <864ovbFsdlU4(a)mid.individual.net>, Thomas T. Veldhouse
> <veldy71(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> > more importantly, not all devices will run android 2.2, including the
>> > t-mobile g1 which is currently being sold, *new*, right *now*.
>>
>> Not all iPods that run 3.1.x will run 4.0 either. Only iPod Touch Gen 3 and
>> iPhone GS models (not sure about any previous iPhone model) will accept OS
>> 4.0.
>
> all 2nd and 3rd gen ipod touches and the iphone 3g and 3gs can run 4.0,
> plus whatever is released this year.
>
> only the 1st gen ipod touch and original iphone cannot. they're 3 year
> old devices and very, very few are still in use.
>
> compare that with android devices that are shipping *now* that can't
> ever run 2.2, and some that won't run it for a while, whenever the
> manufacturer decides it will update it.

3 years isn't very old for an mp3 player.
From: Justin on
nospam wrote on [Wed, 26 May 2010 09:41:38 -0700]:
> In article <k7dqv5pab9vup4otq4od82ed07qd471fve(a)4ax.com>, Paul Miner
> <pminer(a)elrancho.invalid> wrote:
>
>> Actually, announcements are the epitome of vaporware. Nearly all
>> vaporware starts with an announcement. A software product stops being
>> vaporware when it actually becomes available. Announcements !=
>> available.
>
> it *has* shipped, to developers, four versions so far. it's not vapor.
> developers are using it and developing for it. the public release will
> be soon, probably about two weeks.

I guess you don't understand whatr shipped means.

shipped means delivere to consumers
From: Justin on
nospam wrote on [Wed, 26 May 2010 09:41:44 -0700]:
> In article <s4hqv5pdnj1gs1ocdar10fdg63oohgmlf1(a)4ax.com>, John Navas
> <jnspam1(a)navasgroup.com> wrote:
>
>> It's vaporware until it's actually released (to everyone) --
>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaporware>:
>>
>> Vaporware is a word used to describe products, usually computer
>> hardware or software, not released on the date announced by their
>> developer...
>
> not that wikipedia is a good reference, but according to that
> definition, it's not vapor since the ship date announced is 'summer
> 2010.'
>
> as i said, it has shipped, to developers. they're using it right now.
>
> meanwhile, android 2.2 is vapor. motorola said 'soon' for the droid.
> not even a date. other devices might not ever get it.

No, 2.2 has shipped to consumers. It is being deployed right now to Nexus One owners

From: Justin on
nospam wrote on [Wed, 26 May 2010 10:32:43 -0700]:
> In article <f0mqv5920dnd7odg242l5bv4nbldc2k21i(a)4ax.com>, Paul Miner
> <pminer(a)elrancho.invalid> wrote:
>
>> The key word is 'announced'. It's vapor until it ships.
>
> it *has* shipped. anyone who wants it can sign up as a developer and
> get a beta version. the public release is imminent.
>
> but if you want to call it vapor, android 2.2 is also vapor, and even
> more so.

Can an end user get android 2.2? Yes. Can an end user get iPhone OS 4? No.

From: Steve Fenwick on
In article <i8lqv599av527mfj61o7clmft1fni8bm9n(a)4ax.com>,
Paul Miner <pminer(a)elrancho.invalid> wrote:

> What could possibly justify very, very few 3 year old i* devices being
> still in use? If true, that's not good for anyone, including Apple.

Huh? 3 year old iPhones (1st gen) may work just fine. Not as fast as new
ones, but still better than many alternatives. Less waste for the
landfill sounds like a decent reason.

Steve

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