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From: Thomas T. Veldhouse on 26 May 2010 14:46 In alt.cellular.verizon nospam <nospam(a)nospam.invalid> wrote: > In article <864ovbFsdlU4(a)mid.individual.net>, Thomas T. Veldhouse > <veldy71(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> > more importantly, not all devices will run android 2.2, including the >> > t-mobile g1 which is currently being sold, *new*, right *now*. >> >> Not all iPods that run 3.1.x will run 4.0 either. Only iPod Touch Gen 3 and >> iPhone GS models (not sure about any previous iPhone model) will accept OS >> 4.0. > > all 2nd and 3rd gen ipod touches and the iphone 3g and 3gs can run 4.0, > plus whatever is released this year. The last thing I read is that 2nd gen iPod Touch is NOT supported. However, they seem to have changed it and you are correct. "iPhone OS 4 will work with iPhone 3G, iPhone 3GS, and the second- and third-generation iPod touch this summer, and with iPad in the fall. Not all features are compatible with all devices. For example, multitasking is available only with iPhone 3GS and the third-generation iPod touch (32GB and 64GB models from late 2009)." So, multitasking will not be available on 2nd generation iPod Touches or older iPhone models; perhaps that is what I was remembering. FULL support is only for the iPod Touch Gen 3 and iPhone 3GS. > > only the 1st gen ipod touch and original iphone cannot. they're 3 year > old devices and very, very few are still in use. > > compare that with android devices that are shipping *now* that can't > ever run 2.2, and some that won't run it for a while, whenever the > manufacturer decides it will update it. Apple sells hardware and software together. Google sells [or gives] their operating system away for free and leaves it's source open. So, what they risk is a bad reputation from a widespread product that uses it [say that Verizon sells a phone that is wildly popular and turns out to be a total dud after six months due to the way they integrated the OS ... that could damage the Android reputation even if it isn't the fault of the OS; I think that is, at least in part, why Apple keeps it's hardware and OS closed]. -- Thomas T. Veldhouse Religion is a crutch, but that's okay... humanity is a cripple.
From: Thomas T. Veldhouse on 26 May 2010 14:49 In alt.cellular.verizon Paul Miner <pminer(a)elrancho.invalid> wrote: > On Wed, 26 May 2010 09:41:33 -0700, nospam <nospam(a)nospam.invalid> > wrote: > >>In article <864ovbFsdlU4(a)mid.individual.net>, Thomas T. Veldhouse >><veldy71(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> > more importantly, not all devices will run android 2.2, including the >>> > t-mobile g1 which is currently being sold, *new*, right *now*. >>> >>> Not all iPods that run 3.1.x will run 4.0 either. Only iPod Touch Gen 3 and >>> iPhone GS models (not sure about any previous iPhone model) will accept OS >>> 4.0. >> >>all 2nd and 3rd gen ipod touches and the iphone 3g and 3gs can run 4.0, >>plus whatever is released this year. >> >>only the 1st gen ipod touch and original iphone cannot. they're 3 year >>old devices and very, very few are still in use. > > What could possibly justify very, very few 3 year old i* devices being > still in use? If true, that's not good for anyone, including Apple. That is a very short sighted thing to say. With two-year contracts on these devices standard and with the market for such a device spanning as much as a year, you have three years of modern support right there. Further, it is VERY common for such devices to be passed on to other people for continued use and the original person "upgrades". Five years is probably more realistic in my opinion. -- Thomas T. Veldhouse Religion is a crutch, but that's okay... humanity is a cripple.
From: Thomas T. Veldhouse on 26 May 2010 14:53 In alt.cellular.verizon Paul Miner <pminer(a)elrancho.invalid> wrote: > On 26 May 2010 14:17:04 GMT, "Thomas T. Veldhouse" <veldy71(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > > Actually, announcements are the epitome of vaporware. Nearly all > vaporware starts with an announcement. A software product stops being > vaporware when it actually becomes available. Announcements != > available. > So, Apple putting out OS 4.0 is vaporware according to the omniscent Novice from Silicon Valley with his boat and world record GSM distances ;-) If Apple OS 4.0 is only vaporware, than this link is awfully damn risky, don't you think? http://www.apple.com/iphone/preview-iphone-os/ No, OS 4.0 is NOT vaporware. -- Thomas T. Veldhouse Religion is a crutch, but that's okay... humanity is a cripple.
From: Thomas T. Veldhouse on 26 May 2010 15:02 In alt.cellular.verizon Paul Miner <pminer(a)elrancho.invalid> wrote: >> >>No, that is not what vaporware is. >> >> http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/vaporware >> >>Computer Slang. a product, esp. software, that is promoted or marketed while >>it is still in development and that may never be produced. >> >>There is no "may" about it; OS4.0 will be produced and released. Vaporware, >>as an example, is TiVo for Comcast [nationwide] and TiVo for DirecTV >>[nationwide]. Both have been announced for a long time and the scheduled >>release date slips ... in the case of Comcast by many many years now. > > I guess the part about being "promoted or marketed while it is still > in development" escaped you. Did you read what you copied/pasted? > And what escaped you is the "and". Not to mention it is *slang* which means it has no precisely defined meaning. For those that have been around long enough to remember when the term vaporware was first used commonly, you know very well that Apple's OS 4.0 is not vaporware. But, I cite from Dictionary.com again, since semantics are the theme of the day: "Computer Slang. a product, esp. software, that is promoted or marketed while it is still in development *and* that may never be produced." -- Thomas T. Veldhouse Religion is a crutch, but that's okay... humanity is a cripple.
From: John Navas on 26 May 2010 15:02
On 26 May 2010 18:53:26 GMT, "Thomas T. Veldhouse" <veldy71(a)gmail.com> wrote in <865916FubgU5(a)mid.individual.net>: >In alt.cellular.verizon Paul Miner <pminer(a)elrancho.invalid> wrote: >> On 26 May 2010 14:17:04 GMT, "Thomas T. Veldhouse" <veldy71(a)gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> Actually, announcements are the epitome of vaporware. Nearly all >> vaporware starts with an announcement. A software product stops being >> vaporware when it actually becomes available. Announcements != >> available. > >So, Apple putting out OS 4.0 is vaporware according to the omniscent Novice >from Silicon Valley with his boat and world record GSM distances ;-) 'Those who have evidence will present their evidence, whereas those who do not have evidence will attack the man.' >If Apple OS 4.0 is only vaporware, than this link is awfully damn risky, don't >you think? > >http://www.apple.com/iphone/preview-iphone-os/ > >No, OS 4.0 is NOT vaporware. Until it ships to end users it most certainly *is* vaporware. -- Best regards, John "Never argue with an idiot. He'll drag you down to his level and then beat you with experience." -Dr. Alan Zimmerman |