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From: Jeff Liebermann on 31 May 2010 19:37 On Mon, 31 May 2010 15:21:08 -0700, nospam <nospam(a)nospam.invalid> wrote: >In article <kk9806lb0pqmfkh6a3brvhfmf94js0inje(a)4ax.com>, Jeff >Liebermann <jeffl(a)cruzio.com> wrote: > >> Incidentally, I got a bit of a surprise when I plugged a 3 button PC >> mouse into my antique Mac Cube running OS/X 10.4.xx. The right button >> worked as expected (show options) as did the roller (scroll up/down). >> This was a pleasant surprise after living with only one button for so >> long. I know the new Apple Magic Mouse will act as a two button mouse >> bit it's still nice to have the mouse act the same in both OS/X and >> Windoze. >multiple buttons have been supported by mac os since the early 1990s, >and contextual menus since the late 1980s. with usb, it's a non-issue. Ok, so why duz Apple continue to ship one button mice and laptops with one button touchpads? Here's one theory: <http://www.gearlive.com/index.php/news/article/why-apple-makes-a-one-buttoned-mouse-01280820/> I've lost count of how many times some great idea gets shot down by "The users don't need that feature. It will only confuse them". Of course there's no consideration to the discovery that they're already confused. -- Jeff Liebermann jeffl(a)cruzio.com 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558
From: nospam on 31 May 2010 19:51 In article <j9h806psss6da5ltdgu40r4v8g309e1rm6(a)4ax.com>, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl(a)cruzio.com> wrote: > >multiple buttons have been supported by mac os since the early 1990s, > >and contextual menus since the late 1980s. with usb, it's a non-issue. > > Ok, so why duz Apple continue to ship one button mice and laptops with > one button touchpads? they ship multi-button mice and trackpads, although they can be considered zero button. :) the mighty mouse (now called apple mouse) has four buttons and the magic mouse has two and a touchpad with gestures. the laptop trackpads are multitouch and you can set up an area for secondary click, or just use the control key with *any* mouse (and that goes back for over a decade, maybe even two). some apps used to use the command key to get a contextual menu, long, long ago. > Here's one theory: > > <http://www.gearlive.com/index.php/news/article/why-apple-makes-a-one-buttoned- > mouse-01280820/> > > I've lost count of how many times some great idea gets shot down by > "The users don't need that feature. It will only confuse them". Of > course there's no consideration to the discovery that they're already > confused. most people (not geeks) find multi-button mice confusing. even when multi-button mice were available in the 90s, few people bothered. plus, how many buttons are best? some like two, some want a wheel and others hate the wheel. some want 4-5 buttons or even more. apple ships a functional mouse and the user can decide to replace it if they want. mac os has always been designed around one button. there is no need for a second (or third) button as there is with other operating systems. it's a convenience (sometimes).
From: Jeff Liebermann on 31 May 2010 19:54 On Mon, 31 May 2010 16:03:35 -0700, Michelle Steiner <michelle(a)michelle.org> wrote: >In article <vcc806t930tja7voe9mft17v4ssitudool(a)4ax.com>, > Jeff Liebermann <jeffl(a)cruzio.com> wrote: > >> I'm nosey. Just how much does your purse or handbag currently weigh >> loaded (without the iPad)? > >2 pounds, or about 0.91 kilos. Ok, I see the problem. Adding 0.72kg of iPad to your 0.91kg purse is going to be a substantial increase. It also means you probably don't want to swing the purse around as a weapon. I don't know what to recommend. Perhaps a larger purse, the shoulder holster, or a backpack? -- Jeff Liebermann jeffl(a)cruzio.com 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558
From: Jolly Roger on 31 May 2010 21:10 In article <michelle-22EB60.17265131052010(a)news.eternal-september.org>, Michelle Steiner <michelle(a)michelle.org> wrote: > In article <jollyroger-A1D0D9.18005131052010(a)news.individual.net>, > Jolly Roger <jollyroger(a)pobox.com> wrote: > > > > > > > You said "the iphone does not tether with at&t". That's > > > > > > incorrect. > > > > > > > > > > it's exactly correct > > > > > > > > Nope. It's incorrect, because the iPhone DOES tether. > > > > > > it's exactly correct. an iphone can only tether if it's jailbroken, > > > > Which means it CAN tether. You said it, not me. Stop trying to argue > > about it. You said "the iphone does not tether with at&t". That's > > incorrect. > > How about you both agree to "The iPhone does not tether with AT&T unless it > is jailbroken. This is subject to change without advance notice."? I'm down with that. -- Send responses to the relevant news group rather than email to me. E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my very hungry SPAM filter. Due to Google's refusal to prevent spammers from posting messages through their servers, I often ignore posts from Google Groups. Use a real news client if you want me to see your posts. JR
From: Jolly Roger on 31 May 2010 21:13
In article <j9h806psss6da5ltdgu40r4v8g309e1rm6(a)4ax.com>, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl(a)cruzio.com> wrote: > On Mon, 31 May 2010 15:21:08 -0700, nospam <nospam(a)nospam.invalid> > wrote: > > >In article <kk9806lb0pqmfkh6a3brvhfmf94js0inje(a)4ax.com>, Jeff > >Liebermann <jeffl(a)cruzio.com> wrote: > > > >> Incidentally, I got a bit of a surprise when I plugged a 3 button PC > >> mouse into my antique Mac Cube running OS/X 10.4.xx. The right button > >> worked as expected (show options) as did the roller (scroll up/down). > >> This was a pleasant surprise after living with only one button for so > >> long. I know the new Apple Magic Mouse will act as a two button mouse > >> bit it's still nice to have the mouse act the same in both OS/X and > >> Windoze. > > >multiple buttons have been supported by mac os since the early 1990s, > >and contextual menus since the late 1980s. with usb, it's a non-issue. > > Ok, so why duz Apple continue to ship one button mice and laptops with > one button touchpads? Here's one theory: > <http://www.gearlive.com/index.php/news/article/why-apple-makes-a-one-buttoned > -mouse-01280820/> > > I've lost count of how many times some great idea gets shot down by > "The users don't need that feature. It will only confuse them". Of > course there's no consideration to the discovery that they're already > confused. Apple hasn't shipped a single-button mouse for a long time. And Mac OS has supported right-click functionality for ages. -- Send responses to the relevant news group rather than email to me. E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my very hungry SPAM filter. Due to Google's refusal to prevent spammers from posting messages through their servers, I often ignore posts from Google Groups. Use a real news client if you want me to see your posts. JR |