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From: nospam on 31 May 2010 15:29 In article <jollyroger-207BF7.14045831052010(a)news.individual.net>, Jolly Roger <jollyroger(a)pobox.com> wrote: > > > > > Actually, the iPhone tether with AT&T, or with any other provider. > > > > > > > > actually, it doesn't. the iphone does not tether with at&t at this time > > > > due to at&t's incompetence. > > > > > > > > that may change in 4.0. > > > > > > Actually I just tethered my iPad to my iPhone yesterday, and I am on > > > AT&T. It absolutely does tether. > > > > then you hacked it and are in violation of at&t's terms of service. > > I jail broke it, sure, but it was as easy as clicking a button. it may be easy, but the iphone can't tether to at&t unless you do, and only with certain firmwares and appropriate configuration file. most people don't jailbreak either. the fact remains that tethering with at&t is not supported. > I couldn't care less about AT&T's terms of service, to be honest. that's nice. do you just abide by whatever agreements you feel like? > I don't > use tethering all that often to begin with, and data is data so it > should be an option, IMO. Plus AT&T falsely advertised that tethering > would be available long ago and has long since missed that date. so you admit there is no tethering with at&t, and yes, they're incompetent buffoons. the sooner the iphone goes multi-carrier, the better. one survey even claims as many as 40% of at&t iphone users might jump ship (6 million subscribers). that seems high, but if even half that switch, not to mention a huge drop in new subscribers to at&t, they're going to be hurting, big time. <http://tech.fortune.cnn.com/2010/05/25/6-million-to-flee-att-for-verizo n-iphone/> the funny thing is, once the iphone is available on verizon, sprint and/or t-mobile, and *they* offer tethering, at&t will somehow figure out how to enable it for the iphone. then again, if 6 million users jump ship, all that capacity can handle the extra load for tethering.
From: Kimmy Boyer on 31 May 2010 15:38 On Mon, 31 May 2010 10:40:34 -0700, nospam wrote: > mobile devices *will* be the future, whether it's an ipad or something > else. Not until outdoor theaters come back will car balling be socially acceptable. -- http://tr.im/3ifq 5/31/2010 3:38:20 PM
From: Jolly Roger on 31 May 2010 16:31 In article <310520101229542685%nospam(a)nospam.invalid>, nospam <nospam(a)nospam.invalid> wrote: > In article <jollyroger-207BF7.14045831052010(a)news.individual.net>, > Jolly Roger <jollyroger(a)pobox.com> wrote: > > > > > > > Actually, the iPhone tether with AT&T, or with any other provider. > > > > > > > > > > actually, it doesn't. the iphone does not tether with at&t at this > > > > > time > > > > > due to at&t's incompetence. > > > > > > > > > > that may change in 4.0. > > > > > > > > Actually I just tethered my iPad to my iPhone yesterday, and I am on > > > > AT&T. It absolutely does tether. > > > > > > then you hacked it and are in violation of at&t's terms of service. > > > > I jail broke it, sure, but it was as easy as clicking a button. > > it may be easy, but the iphone can't tether to at&t unless you do, and > only with certain firmwares and appropriate configuration file. most > people don't jailbreak either. the fact remains that tethering with > at&t is not supported. You said "the iphone does not tether with at&t". That's incorrect. > > I couldn't care less about AT&T's terms of service, to be honest. > > that's nice. do you just abide by whatever agreements you feel like? Most of us do, yep. > > I don't > > use tethering all that often to begin with, and data is data so it > > should be an option, IMO. Plus AT&T falsely advertised that tethering > > would be available long ago and has long since missed that date. > > so you admit there is no tethering with at&t, and yes, they're > incompetent buffoons. Like you said, it's not supported, but that obviously doesn't mean you can't do it. -- Send responses to the relevant news group rather than email to me. E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my very hungry SPAM filter. Due to Google's refusal to prevent spammers from posting messages through their servers, I often ignore posts from Google Groups. Use a real news client if you want me to see your posts. JR
From: Thomas R. Kettler on 31 May 2010 16:38 In article <michelle-D47B08.11394531052010(a)news.eternal-september.org>, Michelle Steiner <michelle(a)michelle.org> wrote: > And very few people know about the mouse to begin with. We had a display > that introduced the Mac; I can't tell you how many people picked up the > mouse, turned it over, and tried to use it as a trackball, even though the > monitor showed them how to use a mouse. Did you see anyone try to use it as a foot treadle? I remember reading that one but always wondered if it was just an urban myth. -- Remove blown from email address to reply.
From: Your Name on 31 May 2010 17:12
"nospam" <nospam(a)nospam.invalid> wrote in message news:300520102348468822%nospam(a)nospam.invalid... > In article <michelle-1D7EDD.19233930052010(a)news.eternal-september.org>, > Michelle Steiner <michelle(a)michelle.org> wrote: > > > > it reminds me of when windows first came out and dos users said a gui > > > was silly, it's a toy, you can't do real work in a gui, real computer > > > users need a command line, i can write a super cool batch file to do > > > what takes you hours of mousing and clicking, blah blah blah. now those > > > same people use mac and windows and would never touch dos. > > > > I had an instructor in 1988 who was dissing the Mac's trashcan as being > > stupid because people should know how to spell "delete". > > i remember people asking me how many columns the original mac screen > had. i said there were no columns, the number of characters per line > varied because almost all fonts were proportional. it all depends what > letters and fonts were used, and what sizes. > > quite a few people (mainly geeks) did not understand why that was a > huge step forward or what it meant for users. i even had to explain > what fonts were to a few people. > > if it wasn't 80x24 or 132x24 of a fixed size amber or green letters, it > was a toy and they weren't interested. > > some people just don't get it. I remember a computer science University lecturer saying something about multi-tasking wasn't possible on a home / small computer ... and most of the class groaned since the Amiga had been doing it for at about a year by then. In fact, most of my computer science classes were like that, way behind the times with many of the students knowing more than the lectrueres. :-\ |